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[NEWs]一封來自 Populous 公司的信 關於游邑建築師主導倫敦奧運場館設計之媒體報導

文章發表於 : 2012 8月 16 (週四) 3:58 am
Peter Tsao
To:Forgemind ArchiMedia,準建築人手札
Email:eager@forgemind.net

Dear Forgemind ArchiMedia / For the attention of the Editor,
親愛的準建築人手札

It has come to our attention that Forgemind ArchiMedia has published articles/broadcasts that
refer to the Taiwanese architect I Yu as the Lead Designer for the London 2012 Olympic Stadium
and Olympic Park masterplan, source link:
http://www.forgemind.net/phpbb/viewtopi ... 4&start=15

我們注意貴網站報導了臺灣建築師遊邑,報導中稱遊邑主導了倫敦2012 奧運會主體育場
和奧運公園的總體規劃,原始連結:
http://www.forgemind.net/phpbb/viewtopi ... 4&start=15

It seems that Forgemind ArchiMedia has been misled and since your publication is well respected,
I wanted to get in contact to highlight inaccuracies in the information that you have been
provided.

這篇報導被人誤導,我們瞭解準建築人手札是一個有聲譽的網路媒體,因此我們和貴網站
取得聯繫並澄清貴網站收到的不準確資訊。

I am writing from Populous (formerly HOK sport architecture), the architecture firm responsible
for these designs and a sponsor of the London 2012 Olympics, to inform you that any published
articles crediting I Yu for these projects are incorrect.

我代表Populous 公司(原HOK 體育建築設計公司),我們公司是倫敦2012 奧運會的贊助
商並且負責奧體公園和主體育場的設計,來函特地澄清任何指稱遊邑主導設計了倫敦奧運
場館的報導都是錯誤的。

I Yu has falsely claimed to Chinese and Taiwanese media that he played a major role in the
design of various venues, including the London 2012 Olympic Stadium, Oval Cricket Ground
(UK), Soccer City Stadium (Johannesburg, South Africa) and Dubai Autodrome.

遊邑在臺灣和中國大陸的媒體報導中謊稱他主導了我公司的很多設計專案,包括倫敦2012
年奧運會場館,皇家橢圓板球場,南非世界盃足球場,迪拜F1 賽車場等,這些都是不符
合事實的。

We would like to ask for your cooperation by removing any online articles/broadcasts that include
any of the false claims listed below and ask that a correction note is published, to state that
Populous (formerly HOK sport architecture) was responsible for the design of the venues in
question.

我們請求貴報協助把涉及不實資訊的報導從網站上移除,並作下列改正:Populous 公司
(原HOK 體育建築設計公司)負責設計了相關專案。

Please do not hesitate to contact me if you would like to discuss this further or if you are
interested in further information about Populous’ work on these projects and I Yu’s role. My
email is XXXXXXX@populous.com , or you can contact my colleague XXX in
Shanghai: XXXXXXX@populous.com , mobile: +86-139XXXXXXX

如果您需要瞭解Populous 公司的相關資訊以及遊邑在這些項目中參與的具體工作,或願意
與我們做進一步的探討,歡迎隨時和我聯繫,我的電子郵箱是
XXXXXXX@populous.com ,您也可以聯絡我上海的同事XXX先生,電子郵箱
XXXXXXX@populous.com , 手機 +86-139XXXXXXX。

False claims to be corrected
下列不實資訊需要更正

• CLAIM: I Yu was promoted to Senior Architect during his time at HOK sport architecture
CORRECTION: I Yu was employed in the position of Architectural Assistant at HOK sport
architecture during his time at the firm between 2002 and 2007. At no point was he a Lead
Designer or leading a design team.

• 謊稱:遊邑被HOK 體育建築公司提拔為資深建築師(資深設計師)
更正:遊邑在2002 年至2007 年間被公司雇傭,他的職位是建築師助理,游邑從來沒
有擔任過主導設計師,也從未帶領過任何設計團隊。

• CLAIM: I Yu was the Lead Designer/Architect of the London 2012 Olympic bid, London
Olympic Stadium and the Olympic Park masterplan (Stratford Urban Regeneration).
CORRECTION: I Yu was an Architectural Assistant within a large team working on these
projects at HOK sport architecture. Populous (formerly HOK sport architecture) should be
credited as responsible for these projects.

• 謊稱:遊邑主導倫敦2012 年奧運會申辦設計,倫敦奧運會主體育場和倫敦奧林匹克
公園總體規劃(施特拉福都市更新規劃)
更正:遊邑是在上述專案中大型工作團隊中的一員,職位是建築師助理,Populous
公司(原HOK 體育建築設計公司)應該是負責這些項目設計的主導。

• CLAIM: I Yu was the Lead Designer and responsible for the design concept for the
following venues: Soccer City Stadium (Johannesburg, South Africa), Oval Cricket Ground (UK),
Dubai Autodrome (F1 circuit)
CORRECTION: These projects should be credited to Populous (formerly HOK sport
architecture). I Yu was not the Lead Designer/Architect for these projects.
• 謊稱:遊邑主導下列專案的設計概念:南非世界盃足球場(南非約翰尼斯堡),皇
家橢圓板球場(英國),迪拜F1 賽車場
更正:所有這些項目都是由 Populous 公司(原HOK 體育建築設計公司)負責設
計,遊邑並非這些項目的主導設計師或建築師
Further claims include that I Yu was presented with RIBA (Royal Institute of British Architects)
awards, which again is incorrect.

此外,遊邑還聲稱獲得RIBA(英國皇家建築師學會)年度最傑出建築師獎,這些也同樣
不是事實。

Yours Sincerely,
誠摯的,

Communications Manager
公共關係經理

14 BLADES COURT. DEODAR ROAD . LONDON . SW15 2NU
Tel : +44(0)20 8874 7666
POPULOUS LTD. - REGISTERED IN ENGLAND No. 2133361 . REGISTERED OFFICE AS ABOVE

http://forgemind.net/phpbb/viewtopic.ph ... 19#p110043

Re: [NEWs]一封來自 Populous 公司的信 關於游邑建築師主導倫敦奧運場館設計之媒體報導

文章發表於 : 2012 8月 17 (週五) 7:40 am
alexliu
Peter Tsao 寫:To:Forgemind ArchiMedia,準建築人手札
Email:eager@forgemind.net

Dear Forgemind ArchiMedia / For the attention of the Editor,
親愛的準建築人手札

It has come to our attention that Forgemind ArchiMedia has published articles/broadcasts that
refer to the Taiwanese architect I Yu as the Lead Designer for the London 2012 Olympic Stadium
and Olympic Park masterplan, source link:
http://www.forgemind.net/phpbb/viewtopi ... 4&start=15

我們注意貴網站報導了臺灣建築師遊邑,報導中稱遊邑主導了倫敦2012 奧運會主體育場
和奧運公園的總體規劃,原始連結:
http://www.forgemind.net/phpbb/viewtopi ... 4&start=15

It seems that Forgemind ArchiMedia has been misled and since your publication is well respected,
I wanted to get in contact to highlight inaccuracies in the information that you have been
provided.

這篇報導被人誤導,我們瞭解準建築人手札是一個有聲譽的網路媒體,因此我們和貴網站
取得聯繫並澄清貴網站收到的不準確資訊。

I am writing from Populous (formerly HOK sport architecture), the architecture firm responsible
for these designs and a sponsor of the London 2012 Olympics, to inform you that any published
articles crediting I Yu for these projects are incorrect.

我代表Populous 公司(原HOK 體育建築設計公司),我們公司是倫敦2012 奧運會的贊助
商並且負責奧體公園和主體育場的設計,來函特地澄清任何指稱遊邑主導設計了倫敦奧運
場館的報導都是錯誤的。

I Yu has falsely claimed to Chinese and Taiwanese media that he played a major role in the
design of various venues, including the London 2012 Olympic Stadium, Oval Cricket Ground
(UK), Soccer City Stadium (Johannesburg, South Africa) and Dubai Autodrome.

遊邑在臺灣和中國大陸的媒體報導中謊稱他主導了我公司的很多設計專案,包括倫敦2012
年奧運會場館,皇家橢圓板球場,南非世界盃足球場,迪拜F1 賽車場等,這些都是不符
合事實的。

We would like to ask for your cooperation by removing any online articles/broadcasts that include
any of the false claims listed below and ask that a correction note is published, to state that
Populous (formerly HOK sport architecture) was responsible for the design of the venues in
question.

我們請求貴報協助把涉及不實資訊的報導從網站上移除,並作下列改正:Populous 公司
(原HOK 體育建築設計公司)負責設計了相關專案。

Please do not hesitate to contact me if you would like to discuss this further or if you are
interested in further information about Populous’ work on these projects and I Yu’s role. My
email is XXXXXXX@populous.com , or you can contact my colleague XXX in
Shanghai: XXXXXXX@populous.com , mobile: +86-139XXXXXXX

如果您需要瞭解Populous 公司的相關資訊以及遊邑在這些項目中參與的具體工作,或願意
與我們做進一步的探討,歡迎隨時和我聯繫,我的電子郵箱是
XXXXXXX@populous.com ,您也可以聯絡我上海的同事XXX先生,電子郵箱
XXXXXXX@populous.com , 手機 +86-139XXXXXXX。

False claims to be corrected
下列不實資訊需要更正

• CLAIM: I Yu was promoted to Senior Architect during his time at HOK sport architecture
CORRECTION: I Yu was employed in the position of Architectural Assistant at HOK sport
architecture during his time at the firm between 2002 and 2007. At no point was he a Lead
Designer or leading a design team.

• 謊稱:遊邑被HOK 體育建築公司提拔為資深建築師(資深設計師)
更正:遊邑在2002 年至2007 年間被公司雇傭,他的職位是建築師助理,游邑從來沒
有擔任過主導設計師,也從未帶領過任何設計團隊。

• CLAIM: I Yu was the Lead Designer/Architect of the London 2012 Olympic bid, London
Olympic Stadium and the Olympic Park masterplan (Stratford Urban Regeneration).
CORRECTION: I Yu was an Architectural Assistant within a large team working on these
projects at HOK sport architecture. Populous (formerly HOK sport architecture) should be
credited as responsible for these projects.

• 謊稱:遊邑主導倫敦2012 年奧運會申辦設計,倫敦奧運會主體育場和倫敦奧林匹克
公園總體規劃(施特拉福都市更新規劃)
更正:遊邑是在上述專案中大型工作團隊中的一員,職位是建築師助理,Populous
公司(原HOK 體育建築設計公司)應該是負責這些項目設計的主導。

• CLAIM: I Yu was the Lead Designer and responsible for the design concept for the
following venues: Soccer City Stadium (Johannesburg, South Africa), Oval Cricket Ground (UK),
Dubai Autodrome (F1 circuit)
CORRECTION: These projects should be credited to Populous (formerly HOK sport
architecture). I Yu was not the Lead Designer/Architect for these projects.
• 謊稱:遊邑主導下列專案的設計概念:南非世界盃足球場(南非約翰尼斯堡),皇
家橢圓板球場(英國),迪拜F1 賽車場
更正:所有這些項目都是由 Populous 公司(原HOK 體育建築設計公司)負責設
計,遊邑並非這些項目的主導設計師或建築師
Further claims include that I Yu was presented with RIBA (Royal Institute of British Architects)
awards, which again is incorrect.

此外,遊邑還聲稱獲得RIBA(英國皇家建築師學會)年度最傑出建築師獎,這些也同樣
不是事實。

Yours Sincerely,
誠摯的,

Communications Manager
公共關係經理

14 BLADES COURT. DEODAR ROAD . LONDON . SW15 2NU
Tel : +44(0)20 8874 7666
POPULOUS LTD. - REGISTERED IN ENGLAND No. 2133361 . REGISTERED OFFICE AS ABOVE

http://forgemind.net/phpbb/viewtopic.ph ... 19#p110043

不寒而慄!!!!!

誰是幫兇

文章發表於 : 2012 8月 22 (週三) 4:21 pm
Thomas
因為大部分的人期待一位明星建築師,又竭力攀附權貴,成了放大謊言的幫兇。其實倫敦碗是哪些團隊主導與完成豪無爭議,文建會也邀過Rod Sheard來台演講...

Re: 誰是幫兇

文章發表於 : 2012 8月 24 (週五) 2:36 pm
Peter Tsao
Thomas 寫:因為大部分的人期待一位明星建築師,又竭力攀附權貴,...

的確有這個現象,但關鍵可能是,
當事人有沒有刻意讓報導扭曲事實。
而報導扭曲事實的時候,當事人有沒有表達「阻止」或「要求更正」的意圖與動作。
報導和事實不符時,當事人心裡應該很清楚有沒有和事實一致。
如果後來公司發表的聲明文字太強硬而有損當事人名譽,個人也建議當事人說明,不然的話,當事人就太委屈了。
不知道有沒有人認識或熟識當事人,能將訊息傳遞。

Re: 誰是幫兇

文章發表於 : 2012 8月 24 (週五) 2:58 pm
alexliu
Peter Tsao 寫:
Thomas 寫:因為大部分的人期待一位明星建築師,又竭力攀附權貴,...

的確有這個現象,但關鍵可能是,
當事人有沒有刻意讓報導扭曲事實。
而報導扭曲事實的時候,當事人有沒有表達「阻止」或「要求更正」的意圖與動作。
報導和事實不符時,當事人心裡應該很清楚有沒有和事實一致。
如果後來公司發表的聲明文字太強硬而有損當事人名譽,個人也建議當事人說明,不然的話,當事人就太委屈了。
不知道有沒有人認識或熟識當事人,能將訊息傳遞。


認同~~~~

文章發表於 : 2012 8月 24 (週五) 8:30 pm
L-archi
大:除了杜拜一級方程式賽車主場館之外,您最為人稱道的莫過於2012倫敦奧運場館設計案,可以聊聊當時是如何爭取到主導建築設計師的位置呢?

游:我不是會說話的人,但我是會做事的人,在倫敦奧運這個案子之前,我幫HOK建築事務所拿下懸宕8年未定、幫英國王儲查爾斯王子設計的「英國皇室板球場(The Oval Cricket Stadium)」這個案子,也讓公司高層對我另眼看待,進而指派我主導奧運設計案。倫敦奧運這案子從03年開始,當時還有好幾間國際知名的建築事務所,同時也在競爭這個重大競案,當時接到了公司指派,我就全神貫注在上面,從草圖、細部設計、提案、取得設計合約、與各國競爭贏得奧運主辦權,我前後花了4年時間在倫敦這個案子上,還記得最終拿下案子的那刻,我還流下了喜悅的眼淚。(笑)
http://www.womany.net/read/article/1028

文章發表於 : 2012 8月 25 (週六) 6:51 pm
jjjjjames
之前台灣設計界也發生過類似的爭議,當時也引起一些爭議與討論。

設計者出來創業展示自己的實務經驗是可以理解的,但是老東家也不希望被當成"訓練中心"。
一來是因為員工跳出去之後就從雇庸變成競爭對手,
二來每個人都不希望自己建立的資源被敵手拿來利用。

小弟的看法是出來創業的人可以強調某方面的工程經驗,
但標的性的東西牽涉到著作權及聲譽等敏感問題,還是謹慎為之。
吃果子要拜樹頭,縱使真的全是你做的,舊的東西就當送給老東家感念其栽培,也就相安無事。

雖然游邑事件的真相不見得有機會釐清。
但人的創意無限,應該相信自己能夠創造出更好的東西。
如果他有實力,有一天還是會找到他的舞台的。